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	<title>Comments on: Putting All the (Timing) Chips On the Table</title>
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		<title>By: Affordable Software</title>
		<link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2008/04/08/putting-all-the-timing-chips-on-the-table/comment-page-1/#comment-150056</link>
		<dc:creator>Affordable Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My buddy is into racing like this and he said that he used to slow down 1/4th of the speed at about half way to create a better finish.

Affordable Softwares last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/nachosoft/~3/-EmY-u0Hj74/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sneak Peek at Yellow Bear&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My buddy is into racing like this and he said that he used to slow down 1/4th of the speed at about half way to create a better finish.</p>
<p>Affordable Softwares last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/nachosoft/~3/-EmY-u0Hj74/" rel="nofollow">Sneak Peek at Yellow Bear</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anna Richard</title>
		<link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2008/04/08/putting-all-the-timing-chips-on-the-table/comment-page-1/#comment-137509</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It depends. Vista came out buggy at first and it took a lot of patches for it to be a good OS. Leopard is nice but it is still overly simplistic for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends. Vista came out buggy at first and it took a lot of patches for it to be a good OS. Leopard is nice but it is still overly simplistic for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2008/04/08/putting-all-the-timing-chips-on-the-table/comment-page-1/#comment-42993</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the lesson is...if you&#039;re running competitively: be on time to the race.

Most of the time, I don&#039;t care what they publish. I race with a watch and that&#039;s what I use for my records--regardless of whether the race organizers use gun time or chip time.

Most of the races in our area, if you&#039;re running for prizes or medals it&#039;s based on gun time--just like the elites.

Russs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.runswithcamera.com/2008/10/2008-chicago-marathon.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2008 Chicago Marathon&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the lesson is&#8230;if you&#8217;re running competitively: be on time to the race.</p>
<p>Most of the time, I don&#8217;t care what they publish. I race with a watch and that&#8217;s what I use for my records&#8211;regardless of whether the race organizers use gun time or chip time.</p>
<p>Most of the races in our area, if you&#8217;re running for prizes or medals it&#8217;s based on gun time&#8211;just like the elites.</p>
<p>Russs last blog post..<a href="http://www.runswithcamera.com/2008/10/2008-chicago-marathon.html" rel="nofollow">2008 Chicago Marathon</a></p>
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		<title>By: Open Letter to Race Directors Everywhere : Complete Running Network</title>
		<link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2008/04/08/putting-all-the-timing-chips-on-the-table/comment-page-1/#comment-35519</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Letter to Race Directors Everywhere : Complete Running Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 07:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] timing is within your budget, it is something that many runners appreciate. So as to not re-open a certain can of worms again let me just say that you should disclose whether you&#8217;re going to place timing mats at [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] timing is within your budget, it is something that many runners appreciate. So as to not re-open a certain can of worms again let me just say that you should disclose whether you&#8217;re going to place timing mats at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blaine Moore (Run to Win)</title>
		<link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2008/04/08/putting-all-the-timing-chips-on-the-table/comment-page-1/#comment-30269</link>
		<dc:creator>Blaine Moore (Run to Win)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;if it takes too long to cross, then what is the point of computer timing at the end? if it’s smallish and if gun time/chip time wouldn’t be too different, why bother?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Uhm, because you can get the same information, except that it&#039;s faster, more accurate, and requires fewer volunteers?

Trust me, if it&#039;s a largish race that is being hand typed up, then your going to get even more bitching on message boards about how slow and messed up the results were than you will about people complaining there was no starting mat and that there shouldn&#039;t be chip timing at all.

&lt;em&gt;Blaine Moore (Run to Win)&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.runtowin.com/~r/RunToWin/~3/325394467/weekly-back-cove-race-series-week-8.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Weekly Back Cove Race Series » Week 8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>if it takes too long to cross, then what is the point of computer timing at the end? if it’s smallish and if gun time/chip time wouldn’t be too different, why bother?</p></blockquote>
<p>Uhm, because you can get the same information, except that it&#8217;s faster, more accurate, and requires fewer volunteers?</p>
<p>Trust me, if it&#8217;s a largish race that is being hand typed up, then your going to get even more bitching on message boards about how slow and messed up the results were than you will about people complaining there was no starting mat and that there shouldn&#8217;t be chip timing at all.</p>
<p><em>Blaine Moore (Run to Win)&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.runtowin.com/~r/RunToWin/~3/325394467/weekly-back-cove-race-series-week-8.html' rel="nofollow">Weekly Back Cove Race Series » Week 8</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: IHateToast</title>
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		<dc:creator>IHateToast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think it&#039;s not a &quot;yes mat/no mat&quot; question; it depends on too many things. larger races should have them (10 min for me to cross start at Lulu 06), but smaller, low-budget races should not be asked to front up the dollaridoos. some races need to get their reputation built up before they can afford the mat--more racers, more fees, mats more affordable.

no race should rely on mats alone. there have been glitches. if you don&#039;t have a crew at the end with the back up plan, you&#039;ll be the next thread on a bitchy forum.

eh. so in my own little nutshell (macadamia, they&#039;re hardest to crack), i&#039;d say that mats at the start should be at crowded races. if it takes too long to cross, then what is the point of computer timing at the end? if it&#039;s smallish and if gun time/chip time wouldn&#039;t be too different, why bother? save the money for the charity they&#039;re supposedly sponsoring. if we worry about our times for our own training diaries, rely on your watch. we can&#039;t cripple ourselves by relying on technology at every step.

&lt;em&gt;IHateToast&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://ihatetoast.typepad.com/noteshome/2008/06/im-not-a-great-runner-but-i-have-potential.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I&#039;m not a great runner, but I have potential&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think it&#8217;s not a &#8220;yes mat/no mat&#8221; question; it depends on too many things. larger races should have them (10 min for me to cross start at Lulu 06), but smaller, low-budget races should not be asked to front up the dollaridoos. some races need to get their reputation built up before they can afford the mat&#8211;more racers, more fees, mats more affordable.</p>
<p>no race should rely on mats alone. there have been glitches. if you don&#8217;t have a crew at the end with the back up plan, you&#8217;ll be the next thread on a bitchy forum.</p>
<p>eh. so in my own little nutshell (macadamia, they&#8217;re hardest to crack), i&#8217;d say that mats at the start should be at crowded races. if it takes too long to cross, then what is the point of computer timing at the end? if it&#8217;s smallish and if gun time/chip time wouldn&#8217;t be too different, why bother? save the money for the charity they&#8217;re supposedly sponsoring. if we worry about our times for our own training diaries, rely on your watch. we can&#8217;t cripple ourselves by relying on technology at every step.</p>
<p><em>IHateToast&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://ihatetoast.typepad.com/noteshome/2008/06/im-not-a-great-runner-but-i-have-potential.html' rel="nofollow">I&#8217;m not a great runner, but I have potential</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: RunColo</title>
		<link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2008/04/08/putting-all-the-timing-chips-on-the-table/comment-page-1/#comment-24565</link>
		<dc:creator>RunColo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having one timing mat also gives the middle/back of the pack runners to try to move up to the front of the line, hindering the faster runners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having one timing mat also gives the middle/back of the pack runners to try to move up to the front of the line, hindering the faster runners.</p>
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		<title>By: Mom On The Run</title>
		<link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2008/04/08/putting-all-the-timing-chips-on-the-table/comment-page-1/#comment-20907</link>
		<dc:creator>Mom On The Run</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Like many new technologies, with the possible exception of Windows Vista, timing chips have made our lives easier&quot;

LOL - I am seriously laughing my arse off at that line (as I sit and type this on my Windows Vista powered laptop).  So unbelievably true!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Like many new technologies, with the possible exception of Windows Vista, timing chips have made our lives easier&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL &#8211; I am seriously laughing my arse off at that line (as I sit and type this on my Windows Vista powered laptop).  So unbelievably true!</p>
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		<title>By: Runatthemouth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Runatthemouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn&#039;t run into this practice until just yesterday.  I ran a teeny 5K with less than 60 people in it.  It&#039;s pretty clear that using the chip has benefits to the race sponsor - you cut down the number of volunteers you need to recruit and manage and it makes it much less of a hassle to post the times.  For the runners, having the times posted right after the race is a real benefit.

I ultimately decided that I&#039;d rather see the money from my race proceeds go to the non-profit organization who sponsored the race.

&lt;em&gt;Runatthemouth&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://runatthemouth.livejournal.com/8273.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Race report - Run for the wildlife&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t run into this practice until just yesterday.  I ran a teeny 5K with less than 60 people in it.  It&#8217;s pretty clear that using the chip has benefits to the race sponsor &#8211; you cut down the number of volunteers you need to recruit and manage and it makes it much less of a hassle to post the times.  For the runners, having the times posted right after the race is a real benefit.</p>
<p>I ultimately decided that I&#8217;d rather see the money from my race proceeds go to the non-profit organization who sponsored the race.</p>
<p><em>Runatthemouth&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://runatthemouth.livejournal.com/8273.html' rel="nofollow">Race report &#8211; Run for the wildlife</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chad... The only thing I would say to your post is this (and I wear a watch at all my races).  The point of the race, for me, is to see how I improve over time (or decline).  So, having an accurate measurement by the race is important to me, even if I have my own time on a watch.  It&#039;s pretty basic to what a race should provide.

&lt;em&gt;Eric&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://stubbornrunning.blogspot.com/2008/04/early-morning-running.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Early Morning Running...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chad&#8230; The only thing I would say to your post is this (and I wear a watch at all my races).  The point of the race, for me, is to see how I improve over time (or decline).  So, having an accurate measurement by the race is important to me, even if I have my own time on a watch.  It&#8217;s pretty basic to what a race should provide.</p>
<p><em>Eric&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://stubbornrunning.blogspot.com/2008/04/early-morning-running.html' rel="nofollow">Early Morning Running&#8230;</a></em></p>
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