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	<title>Comments on: Back Away From the Headphones, Ma&#8217;am</title>
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		<title>By: brent</title>
		<link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2007/04/09/listen-up-all-you-headphone-users/comment-page-1/#comment-20129</link>
		<dc:creator>brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 00:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did the vancouver 2007 full mararthon ban headphones? or is the first time this year. I want to wear my headphones this year due to not wanting to hear myself grunt for possibly 4 hrs. I am aware that the ban is on&#039; however, it says not recomended to wear headphones after the the long list of strollers roller blades and headphones is included in that list. Regards, Brent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did the vancouver 2007 full mararthon ban headphones? or is the first time this year. I want to wear my headphones this year due to not wanting to hear myself grunt for possibly 4 hrs. I am aware that the ban is on&#8217; however, it says not recomended to wear headphones after the the long list of strollers roller blades and headphones is included in that list. Regards, Brent.</p>
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		<title>By: Blaine Moore (Run to Win)</title>
		<link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2007/04/09/listen-up-all-you-headphone-users/comment-page-1/#comment-14380</link>
		<dc:creator>Blaine Moore (Run to Win)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that some people are more inspired by others and that people respond differently to music than others.

However, how can you possibly think that it is a violation of civil rights to ban head phones?  Sorry, but that&#039;s the most ridiculous argument I&#039;ve heard for headphones yet.

You do &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; have the right to run in a track or road race.  You have the privilege.   Road races are not regulated by the government, they are put on (mostly) by volunteers who selflessly spend their time organizing, fund raising, and working their events.  

Their first concern is that everybody stay safe as they compete in their event, and their second concern is that they raise enough money to benefit whatever charitable organization is receiving the funds raised by the race.

Your race entry fee will sometimes cover the costs of all of the fees and licenses that the race entails, but not always.  In  many cases, the race entry fees only cover a portion of the cost of running the race and the rest of the money is raised through donations from the local community.

The governing body for the sport here in the United States has mandated that any event that they sanction be headphone free.  By complying with the rules, races are able to avoid an exorbitant increase in the costs to purchase the insurance that they need to put the race on.

There are no civil liberties being violated here.  While you have every right to boycott those races, I have no intention of doing so because I do not see anything wrong.  I don&#039;t personally care if somebody wears headphones (as long as they don&#039;t endanger myself or the other runners) but I do not think that you have the right to wear them just because it gives you a competitive advantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that some people are more inspired by others and that people respond differently to music than others.</p>
<p>However, how can you possibly think that it is a violation of civil rights to ban head phones?  Sorry, but that&#8217;s the most ridiculous argument I&#8217;ve heard for headphones yet.</p>
<p>You do <i>not</i> have the right to run in a track or road race.  You have the privilege.   Road races are not regulated by the government, they are put on (mostly) by volunteers who selflessly spend their time organizing, fund raising, and working their events.  </p>
<p>Their first concern is that everybody stay safe as they compete in their event, and their second concern is that they raise enough money to benefit whatever charitable organization is receiving the funds raised by the race.</p>
<p>Your race entry fee will sometimes cover the costs of all of the fees and licenses that the race entails, but not always.  In  many cases, the race entry fees only cover a portion of the cost of running the race and the rest of the money is raised through donations from the local community.</p>
<p>The governing body for the sport here in the United States has mandated that any event that they sanction be headphone free.  By complying with the rules, races are able to avoid an exorbitant increase in the costs to purchase the insurance that they need to put the race on.</p>
<p>There are no civil liberties being violated here.  While you have every right to boycott those races, I have no intention of doing so because I do not see anything wrong.  I don&#8217;t personally care if somebody wears headphones (as long as they don&#8217;t endanger myself or the other runners) but I do not think that you have the right to wear them just because it gives you a competitive advantage.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian B</title>
		<link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2007/04/09/listen-up-all-you-headphone-users/comment-page-1/#comment-14377</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rhythmic motions of running are musical in every sense. Some people are insensitive to music and sound, others are extremely sensitive to it and are inspired by it. The difference is personal. Banning music is the sort of thing that extreme fundamentalist religious movements like the Taliban do. There is no place for such ignorant discrimination in our civilization. Participants and spectators should boycott all such events and protest this violation of civil rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rhythmic motions of running are musical in every sense. Some people are insensitive to music and sound, others are extremely sensitive to it and are inspired by it. The difference is personal. Banning music is the sort of thing that extreme fundamentalist religious movements like the Taliban do. There is no place for such ignorant discrimination in our civilization. Participants and spectators should boycott all such events and protest this violation of civil rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Mom hates this Blog &#187; Urbandale 4th of July 5K</title>
		<link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2007/04/09/listen-up-all-you-headphone-users/comment-page-1/#comment-12240</link>
		<dc:creator>Mom hates this Blog &#187; Urbandale 4th of July 5K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 22:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] note, a considerable portion of the field was wearing headphones. Not one injury reported&#8230; according to some, we all should have died or at least ended up sterile or something. reddit_url = [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tory K</title>
		<link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2007/04/09/listen-up-all-you-headphone-users/comment-page-1/#comment-11758</link>
		<dc:creator>Tory K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 04:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOu know what I love? The people who act like anyone who uses headphones is some sort of blithering idiot. I run with headphones and you know what, if I don&#039;t respond to you it isn&#039;t because I can&#039;t hear you. IT&#039;S BECAUSE MAYBE I DON&#039;T WANT TO TALK TO YOU! Yeah, sometimes when I&#039;m towards the end of the marathon, the wall is staring me down, and I&#039;m feeling like that last Gu may just make an impromptu reentry, I don&#039;t really want to chat. 

I run with ear buds ALL the time. I keep one ear open so I am running safely. I can hear everything around me. The music helps pace me, relaxes me, pumps me up, entertains me, 
distracts me, and I enjoy it. 

It is one thing to not want to use them yourself, but what I don&#039;t get is why people who choose not to use them act like those of us who do are idiots. I have run full half marathons without music. I&#039;ve run much of my full marathon a few times without music. (Never listened to it the entire marathon because I do enjoy talking to people.) 

Would I not enter a marathon that banned them? Possibly, depending on the field. I ran a 30k recently that had such a small field that rarely was anyone even within talking distance. That was a long 2+ hours alone on the the road. 

The RnRs aren&#039;t banning them at this point, except (if I recall) for the elites. Honestly, I don&#039;t think they should be banned for the general field. I&#039;m not winning just because I&#039;ve got a podcast playing in my ear. I also think it&#039;ll be pretty difficult to actually enforce in the really large races.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOu know what I love? The people who act like anyone who uses headphones is some sort of blithering idiot. I run with headphones and you know what, if I don&#8217;t respond to you it isn&#8217;t because I can&#8217;t hear you. IT&#8217;S BECAUSE MAYBE I DON&#8217;T WANT TO TALK TO YOU! Yeah, sometimes when I&#8217;m towards the end of the marathon, the wall is staring me down, and I&#8217;m feeling like that last Gu may just make an impromptu reentry, I don&#8217;t really want to chat. </p>
<p>I run with ear buds ALL the time. I keep one ear open so I am running safely. I can hear everything around me. The music helps pace me, relaxes me, pumps me up, entertains me,<br />
distracts me, and I enjoy it. </p>
<p>It is one thing to not want to use them yourself, but what I don&#8217;t get is why people who choose not to use them act like those of us who do are idiots. I have run full half marathons without music. I&#8217;ve run much of my full marathon a few times without music. (Never listened to it the entire marathon because I do enjoy talking to people.) </p>
<p>Would I not enter a marathon that banned them? Possibly, depending on the field. I ran a 30k recently that had such a small field that rarely was anyone even within talking distance. That was a long 2+ hours alone on the the road. </p>
<p>The RnRs aren&#8217;t banning them at this point, except (if I recall) for the elites. Honestly, I don&#8217;t think they should be banned for the general field. I&#8217;m not winning just because I&#8217;ve got a podcast playing in my ear. I also think it&#8217;ll be pretty difficult to actually enforce in the really large races.</p>
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		<title>By: thodarumm</title>
		<link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2007/04/09/listen-up-all-you-headphone-users/comment-page-1/#comment-11633</link>
		<dc:creator>thodarumm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to say,

Congrats to phaz30. Oh my, you did a half in 3 months since you started running. In my eyes, you are a great  runner.

Yes, I feel like I should hurry up and finish a marathon before music is banned, but nah.. I have to build endurance. And if I need it bad, I will do it without music.</description>
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<p>Congrats to phaz30. Oh my, you did a half in 3 months since you started running. In my eyes, you are a great  runner.</p>
<p>Yes, I feel like I should hurry up and finish a marathon before music is banned, but nah.. I have to build endurance. And if I need it bad, I will do it without music.</p>
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		<title>By: jank</title>
		<link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2007/04/09/listen-up-all-you-headphone-users/comment-page-1/#comment-11629</link>
		<dc:creator>jank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, seriously - aren&#039;t there enough people out there sitting on their butts that we need to find ways to discourage people from running? 

Talk of the iPod ban is ridiculous. Why the constant need to poop in other people&#039;s food? The same cases - training advantage, distracts from the race, whatever - could be made against running partners and clubs. 

Which is more of a course hazard? One runner, however distracted, or a half-dozen or so chatting and taking up half the road?

I say that we make things more competitive by banning teams and partners. Everyone should have to run the race alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, seriously &#8211; aren&#8217;t there enough people out there sitting on their butts that we need to find ways to discourage people from running? </p>
<p>Talk of the iPod ban is ridiculous. Why the constant need to poop in other people&#8217;s food? The same cases &#8211; training advantage, distracts from the race, whatever &#8211; could be made against running partners and clubs. </p>
<p>Which is more of a course hazard? One runner, however distracted, or a half-dozen or so chatting and taking up half the road?</p>
<p>I say that we make things more competitive by banning teams and partners. Everyone should have to run the race alone.</p>
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		<title>By: 2007 Just a Short Run Half Marathon @ Ales Rarus</title>
		<link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2007/04/09/listen-up-all-you-headphone-users/comment-page-1/#comment-11627</link>
		<dc:creator>2007 Just a Short Run Half Marathon @ Ales Rarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I used my iPod. What are you going to do about it?  Funky [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 2007 University of Pittsburgh Campus Classic 5K @ Ales Rarus</title>
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		<dc:creator>2007 University of Pittsburgh Campus Classic 5K @ Ales Rarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] long, my actual 5K time would be just under 25 minutes, a personal best.  P.S. I used my iPod. What are you going to do about it?  Funky [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] long, my actual 5K time would be just under 25 minutes, a personal best.  P.S. I used my iPod. What are you going to do about it?  Funky [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blaine Moore (Run to Win)</title>
		<link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2007/04/09/listen-up-all-you-headphone-users/comment-page-1/#comment-11621</link>
		<dc:creator>Blaine Moore (Run to Win)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;P.S. ARe there no deaf runners? What about their safety?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
There are plenty of deaf runners.  In fact, I ran the Boston Marathon with one just a few days ago.  Well, I ran the first 5 miles with him and got some drinks afterwards, anyway.

As for safety, the rule doesn&#039;t mention anything about safety being a reason for the ban.  However, having had around a dozen deaf teammates at one time or another, they are safer than somebody with an iPod. Being deaf is not the same as being distracted.Being deaf is all the time, so they are more likely to be used to not hearing something.Deaf people are used to relying upon their eyes more than their earsBeing deaf &lt;em&gt;does&lt;/em&gt; make it more dangerous to run in traffic.

My 20 cents or so, by this point.  Heheh.  I wrote about &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.runtowin.com/2006/11/16/my-take-on-running-with-headphones.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;being deaf and headphones&lt;/a&gt; at Run to Win in response to one of these articles before (Jeanne&#039;s article &lt;a href=&quot;http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;comparing running with headphones and running with scissors&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>P.S. ARe there no deaf runners? What about their safety?</p></blockquote>
<p>There are plenty of deaf runners.  In fact, I ran the Boston Marathon with one just a few days ago.  Well, I ran the first 5 miles with him and got some drinks afterwards, anyway.</p>
<p>As for safety, the rule doesn&#8217;t mention anything about safety being a reason for the ban.  However, having had around a dozen deaf teammates at one time or another, they are safer than somebody with an iPod. Being deaf is not the same as being distracted.Being deaf is all the time, so they are more likely to be used to not hearing something.Deaf people are used to relying upon their eyes more than their earsBeing deaf <em>does</em> make it more dangerous to run in traffic.</p>
<p>My 20 cents or so, by this point.  Heheh.  I wrote about <a href="http://news.runtowin.com/2006/11/16/my-take-on-running-with-headphones.html" rel="nofollow">being deaf and headphones</a> at Run to Win in response to one of these articles before (Jeanne&#8217;s article <a href="http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/" rel="nofollow">comparing running with headphones and running with scissors</a>)</p>
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