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> <channel><title>Comments on: Running With Headphones &#8230; As Bad as Running With Scissors?</title> <atom:link href="http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/</link> <description>Runner's Information &#38; Advice</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 14:57:54 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4</generator> <item><title>By: Madison O. Howe</title><link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/comment-page-1/#comment-349389</link> <dc:creator>Madison O. Howe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 06:56:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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isPermaLink="false">http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/#comment-349388</guid> <description>Running with headphones on can be very enjoyable especially when you are out there alone. Music can be your best buddy while running, just make sure that your surroundings are safe, so that you can prevent possible mishaps. Many thanks. :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Running with headphones on can be very enjoyable especially when you are out there alone. Music can be your best buddy while running, just make sure that your surroundings are safe, so that you can prevent possible mishaps. Many thanks. <img
src='http://completerunning.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cabinfever</title><link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/comment-page-1/#comment-318795</link> <dc:creator>Cabinfever</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 21:40:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/#comment-318795</guid> <description>Can we not mind our own business and let people do what they want?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we not mind our own business and let people do what they want?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Herr Geist</title><link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/comment-page-1/#comment-312720</link> <dc:creator>Herr Geist</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 10:08:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/#comment-312720</guid> <description>To think that runners who don&#039;t use headphones cannot be injured or killed while running is absolute idiocy. Someone used the death of a headphone runner as an example as to why it&#039;s a bad idea. I&#039;ve lived all over this world and in many cities and I have heard of many runners who were mowed down by cars, trains or even fell from very high places because they weren&#039;t paying attention. I heard about some of them on the news, sure, but most of them were word of mouth through running circles. Wanna know how many of them were &quot;real runners&quot; who didn&#039;t wear headphones? Probably about 80% of them.
It is absolute arrogance and nothing else that drives these &quot;real runners&quot; to such a hard stance on a simple subject. What&#039;s simple about it? This.
Any person can get hurt in any circumstance at any time regardless of what they&#039;re doing. To think otherwise is foolish. There have been people run over by cars in their very own living rooms while watching television! Does it happen a lot? No. Can it happen? Well, it has. So obviously it can.
I run with headphones. I am always aware of my surroundings. I can hear everything going on around me. If someone speaks to me, I can hear them. If someone yells from a distance, my head turns. Why? Because headphones don&#039;t necessarily make you deaf to the world. I&#039;ve seen runners out there not wearing headphones trip over things or run into other pedestrians because they simply weren&#039;t paying attention. I&#039;ve seen the same from people wearing headphones. I&#039;d say it&#039;s about 50/50. So this whole debate is pure crap.
It comes down to attentive vs non-attentive people. Headphones might play some small part in it, but all I need to see is one &quot;real runner&quot; do something so stupid as to run into traffic or knock over a mother with a stroller to think &quot;Wow, I wear headphones and I&#039;ve never done that.&quot;
&quot;Real runners&quot;. Claiming a title like that simply for the fact that you don&#039;t wear headphones? haha. Are you serious? A real runner is any runner who gets out there and works hard to be the best runner they can be while simultaneously enjoying what they do. Oh.... and other serious athletes, not just runners, mostly train with music. Whoever said they don&#039;t is lying to make a case that isn&#039;t really worth debating in the first place.
I&#039;m gonna go read a book without glasses so I can be a &quot;real reader&quot;. Have fun, kids.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To think that runners who don&#8217;t use headphones cannot be injured or killed while running is absolute idiocy. Someone used the death of a headphone runner as an example as to why it&#8217;s a bad idea. I&#8217;ve lived all over this world and in many cities and I have heard of many runners who were mowed down by cars, trains or even fell from very high places because they weren&#8217;t paying attention. I heard about some of them on the news, sure, but most of them were word of mouth through running circles. Wanna know how many of them were &#8220;real runners&#8221; who didn&#8217;t wear headphones? Probably about 80% of them.</p><p>It is absolute arrogance and nothing else that drives these &#8220;real runners&#8221; to such a hard stance on a simple subject. What&#8217;s simple about it? This.</p><p>Any person can get hurt in any circumstance at any time regardless of what they&#8217;re doing. To think otherwise is foolish. There have been people run over by cars in their very own living rooms while watching television! Does it happen a lot? No. Can it happen? Well, it has. So obviously it can.</p><p>I run with headphones. I am always aware of my surroundings. I can hear everything going on around me. If someone speaks to me, I can hear them. If someone yells from a distance, my head turns. Why? Because headphones don&#8217;t necessarily make you deaf to the world. I&#8217;ve seen runners out there not wearing headphones trip over things or run into other pedestrians because they simply weren&#8217;t paying attention. I&#8217;ve seen the same from people wearing headphones. I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s about 50/50. So this whole debate is pure crap.</p><p>It comes down to attentive vs non-attentive people. Headphones might play some small part in it, but all I need to see is one &#8220;real runner&#8221; do something so stupid as to run into traffic or knock over a mother with a stroller to think &#8220;Wow, I wear headphones and I&#8217;ve never done that.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Real runners&#8221;. Claiming a title like that simply for the fact that you don&#8217;t wear headphones? haha. Are you serious? A real runner is any runner who gets out there and works hard to be the best runner they can be while simultaneously enjoying what they do. Oh&#8230;. and other serious athletes, not just runners, mostly train with music. Whoever said they don&#8217;t is lying to make a case that isn&#8217;t really worth debating in the first place.</p><p>I&#8217;m gonna go read a book without glasses so I can be a &#8220;real reader&#8221;. Have fun, kids.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mat</title><link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/comment-page-1/#comment-304267</link> <dc:creator>mat</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:14:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/#comment-304267</guid> <description>I never use headphones.  For my money, running is about more than exercise.
I realize that most readers of this post will disagree, you are entitled, but these are not your reasons, they are mine.  I feel that they have been neglected in the above discussion.
1.  The tempos of the songs must impose themselves into your pace.  I like to pace myself   to how I feel rather than a song.
2.  There is a lot of good thinking time in a run, which a podcast or book or song would seem to eliminate.  Sure you can think of something else, but then why use the ipod?
3.  It is just another thing to carry with you.  I hate carrying my keys, let alone a rather heavy piece of tech with things dangling all about, fussing with volume, changing songs, adjusting, etc.
4.  If I do need music, I will just listen to it in my head.  This may be something that is not an option available to many people.
5.  Yes, it does seem dangerous to me.  Not like being a lion tamer dangerous, but more dangerous than not using them.
6.  I do not want to be distracted from my task.  I love that it is hard.  I love that it is lonely.  I love the fact that I can run 5, 10, 26.2 miles with nothing but my shoes, my wits, a couple public drinking fountains, and maybe one of those energy packs.  Yes, clothes too.  And nobody go to the shoeless thing... just don&#039;t go there.
Yes, I know it&#039;s crazy, but it&#039;s my kind of crazy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never use headphones.  For my money, running is about more than exercise.</p><p>I realize that most readers of this post will disagree, you are entitled, but these are not your reasons, they are mine.  I feel that they have been neglected in the above discussion.</p><p>1.  The tempos of the songs must impose themselves into your pace.  I like to pace myself   to how I feel rather than a song.<br
/> 2.  There is a lot of good thinking time in a run, which a podcast or book or song would seem to eliminate.  Sure you can think of something else, but then why use the ipod?<br
/> 3.  It is just another thing to carry with you.  I hate carrying my keys, let alone a rather heavy piece of tech with things dangling all about, fussing with volume, changing songs, adjusting, etc.<br
/> 4.  If I do need music, I will just listen to it in my head.  This may be something that is not an option available to many people.<br
/> 5.  Yes, it does seem dangerous to me.  Not like being a lion tamer dangerous, but more dangerous than not using them.<br
/> 6.  I do not want to be distracted from my task.  I love that it is hard.  I love that it is lonely.  I love the fact that I can run 5, 10, 26.2 miles with nothing but my shoes, my wits, a couple public drinking fountains, and maybe one of those energy packs.  Yes, clothes too.  And nobody go to the shoeless thing&#8230; just don&#8217;t go there.</p><p>Yes, I know it&#8217;s crazy, but it&#8217;s my kind of crazy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ex-purist</title><link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/comment-page-1/#comment-274775</link> <dc:creator>Ex-purist</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:18:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/#comment-274775</guid> <description>Although there is much value to what this article says, I disagree with your comrades who state:
&quot;We can tell you who does NOT—runners who are serious about their training and racing leave the headphones home. Not at the track, not on the trail and not at the races.&quot;
Do the likes of Ryan Hall, Josh Cox, or Hal Koener ring any bells? All of these athletes use headphones and take their training seriously. I would like to see their 20-30mpw butt toe the line.
Yes, headphones may be unsafe. They may disconnect you from your running. But they can be an invaluable training tool.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although there is much value to what this article says, I disagree with your comrades who state:</p><p>&#8220;We can tell you who does NOT—runners who are serious about their training and racing leave the headphones home. Not at the track, not on the trail and not at the races.&#8221;</p><p>Do the likes of Ryan Hall, Josh Cox, or Hal Koener ring any bells? All of these athletes use headphones and take their training seriously. I would like to see their 20-30mpw butt toe the line.</p><p>Yes, headphones may be unsafe. They may disconnect you from your running. But they can be an invaluable training tool.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mel</title><link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/comment-page-1/#comment-232980</link> <dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:06:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/#comment-232980</guid> <description>Funny, I just found this via google because I am running my first half marathon and I was intimidated when I saw that headphones were discouraged (not banned).  This is one of those where there will be entertainment along the course, so that soothes me a bit, but I’m pretty specific in what I like to listen to and what helps me keep my pace.  I’m fairly new to running, I’ve been doing it for maybe a year now.  To be honest, I didn’t love it until I was given the ipod and I can barely imagine running without it.  I do keep it to fairly low levels, and I manage to run in Boston very safely.  You can listen to music and still be fully aware and likewise you can not have music and still be in a complete daze.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I just found this via google because I am running my first half marathon and I was intimidated when I saw that headphones were discouraged (not banned).  This is one of those where there will be entertainment along the course, so that soothes me a bit, but I’m pretty specific in what I like to listen to and what helps me keep my pace.  I’m fairly new to running, I’ve been doing it for maybe a year now.  To be honest, I didn’t love it until I was given the ipod and I can barely imagine running without it.  I do keep it to fairly low levels, and I manage to run in Boston very safely.  You can listen to music and still be fully aware and likewise you can not have music and still be in a complete daze.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Michelle</title><link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/comment-page-1/#comment-190432</link> <dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 20:00:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/#comment-190432</guid> <description>I always wear headphones on runs. I remember my running days before I got my iPod, most runs were brutal. Now it&#039;s actually fun, kind of like dancing sometimes. If I ran outside in a bad neighborhood and/or at night, I might leave them at home, but I run on a treadmill most of the time. I feel pretty safe to crank up the volume and jam out.
Usually, the only time I don&#039;t use the treadmill is when I do races, which are also pretty safe, since there are generally anywhere between 60 to a few hundred people in them with me.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always wear headphones on runs. I remember my running days before I got my iPod, most runs were brutal. Now it&#8217;s actually fun, kind of like dancing sometimes. If I ran outside in a bad neighborhood and/or at night, I might leave them at home, but I run on a treadmill most of the time. I feel pretty safe to crank up the volume and jam out.</p><p>Usually, the only time I don&#8217;t use the treadmill is when I do races, which are also pretty safe, since there are generally anywhere between 60 to a few hundred people in them with me.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ana</title><link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/comment-page-1/#comment-188448</link> <dc:creator>Ana</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 23:17:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/#comment-188448</guid> <description>As a super beginner , I&#039;ll confess that I did run with my headphones on. Yet during my first run I decided to take them off for a while to listen.  It was different, you realize where you are, what you are doing, and more importantly why.  I vote to no headphones as well, but I don&#039;t agree with a crazy paragraph with insults about the subject.  Never will everyone agree on everything.  Let it be.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a super beginner , I&#8217;ll confess that I did run with my headphones on. Yet during my first run I decided to take them off for a while to listen.  It was different, you realize where you are, what you are doing, and more importantly why.  I vote to no headphones as well, but I don&#8217;t agree with a crazy paragraph with insults about the subject.  Never will everyone agree on everything.  Let it be.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Steve</title><link>http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/comment-page-1/#comment-184447</link> <dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:55:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://completerunning.com/archives/2006/11/16/running-with-headphones-as-bad-as-running-with-scissors/#comment-184447</guid> <description>So-called runners who wear earphones are much like irresponsible dog-owners who keep their dogs off lease and don&#039;t clean up after them (and if you are a &quot;real&quot; runner, you have had MANY run-ins with dog owners).  They cause a lot of problems for runners and are quite selfish and unaware that they are ruining the experience and sometimes endangering others all for thier own convenience.  Try talking politely to an irresponsible dog owner whos dog has just bit you, or an ipod &quot;runner&quot; who doesn&#039;t hear you yell &quot;trail!&quot; or is just making a nuisance of themselves...they all come back with the same defensive, self-righteous attitude that it is somehow YOUR fault for being too sensitive or a jerk.  Having a forum or discussion about ipod-listening fake runners will get you nowhere.  DO you notice that they all excuse themselves with anecdotal &quot;evidence&quot; such as &quot;I&#039;ve never seen anyone get hurt&quot; or &quot;no ones&#039;s ever complained.&quot;  You tend to find what you&#039;re looking for in an argument and fake runners are looking for  what they always look for...a good time and an artificial ego/performance boost at the expense of real runners and the integrity of the sport.  SInce anecdotes seem to be the currency readed around this forum, here&#039;s one for ipod listeners to chew on...my dear friend Trudy Thomas was struck and killed by a car two years ago while running with headphones.  All it takes is one death of a person you know to see hoe assinine ipods are while running.  I promise you, no real runner uses them.  No real runner whould let a friend use them.  No real race would let you compete with them.  No real runner will ever respect you with those things in your ear.  If you need them to run, then runnings not what you&#039;re after.  Running has never and will never be about distraction or adreneline or multitasking.  Running is about using the road/trail and your legs to figure out your head and what this life is about.  Wear your ipod to a sermon or a lecture or a movie or while talking to a loved one or proposing to yor sweatheart and you start to understand exactly what you&#039;re doign when you wear an ipod on a run.  You could have learned something, felt something, bettered your life, or fallen in love.  But you traded it for a beat and nonsense lyrics and the opportunity to be an antisocial, poser, ignorant, selfish, fake, arrogant, and unmotivated prick.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So-called runners who wear earphones are much like irresponsible dog-owners who keep their dogs off lease and don&#8217;t clean up after them (and if you are a &#8220;real&#8221; runner, you have had MANY run-ins with dog owners).  They cause a lot of problems for runners and are quite selfish and unaware that they are ruining the experience and sometimes endangering others all for thier own convenience.  Try talking politely to an irresponsible dog owner whos dog has just bit you, or an ipod &#8220;runner&#8221; who doesn&#8217;t hear you yell &#8220;trail!&#8221; or is just making a nuisance of themselves&#8230;they all come back with the same defensive, self-righteous attitude that it is somehow YOUR fault for being too sensitive or a jerk.  Having a forum or discussion about ipod-listening fake runners will get you nowhere.  DO you notice that they all excuse themselves with anecdotal &#8220;evidence&#8221; such as &#8220;I&#8217;ve never seen anyone get hurt&#8221; or &#8220;no ones&#8217;s ever complained.&#8221;  You tend to find what you&#8217;re looking for in an argument and fake runners are looking for  what they always look for&#8230;a good time and an artificial ego/performance boost at the expense of real runners and the integrity of the sport.  SInce anecdotes seem to be the currency readed around this forum, here&#8217;s one for ipod listeners to chew on&#8230;my dear friend Trudy Thomas was struck and killed by a car two years ago while running with headphones.  All it takes is one death of a person you know to see hoe assinine ipods are while running.  I promise you, no real runner uses them.  No real runner whould let a friend use them.  No real race would let you compete with them.  No real runner will ever respect you with those things in your ear.  If you need them to run, then runnings not what you&#8217;re after.  Running has never and will never be about distraction or adreneline or multitasking.  Running is about using the road/trail and your legs to figure out your head and what this life is about.  Wear your ipod to a sermon or a lecture or a movie or while talking to a loved one or proposing to yor sweatheart and you start to understand exactly what you&#8217;re doign when you wear an ipod on a run.  You could have learned something, felt something, bettered your life, or fallen in love.  But you traded it for a beat and nonsense lyrics and the opportunity to be an antisocial, poser, ignorant, selfish, fake, arrogant, and unmotivated prick.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
